Monday, May 19, 2008

Revision Hip Arthroscopy/ Failed Hip Arthroscopy

I always wonder how many other people have fallen into this predicament as well. What I have noticed is that these are key words that often bring people to my blog. I have no way to really keep track, but often I will scan my sitemeter which will tell me the search words used by readers. It doesn't always work, for example, "Landsickness" through google brings up my blog, o the top 10 (I checked), but so do other key words, like FAI, hipscope, hip arthroscopy,psoas....and my all time favorite, "Bryan Kelly hipscope", my blog is #1 on google if you put in those words. This is quite embarrassing as well as pretty funny, if you ask me! (If he knew, he probably wouldn't agree!)

So, my point is, I was curious, who has had a failed hip arthroscopy? or failed FAI surgery? or failed surgery for a labral tear? Who has retorn their labrum?And even more importantly....why...what reason were you given??
Now would be a great time for all lurkers to share their story, so we can all learn from each other.
Me? An conservative surgeon who didn't want to take down too much bone if it was unnecessary. We found out the hard way that it indeed was necessary, but a happy ending for all involved parties!!!

100 comments:

Anonymous said...

i think this is how i found you! i was looking for people who have had more than one scope.
soccermom

carrie said...

I am a Dr. Kelly Pt and had surgery this past January and have continued to have problems. I had a labral deb., psoas release, and and a synovectomy. I am in the process right now of finding out whether or not my surgery failed and whether or not I need a revision to correct any FAI that was not seen and corrected on my first surgery. Just like you I am a 27 year old female and from Florida, but I still live there.

Susie said...

Carrie, what are your current symptoms? Did you have any FAI addressed? I'm sorry you are still having trouble after so long, what does dr.k say?

carrie said...

Hi Susie, I did not have any FAI addressed in my first surgery. Right now y symptoms are the same as pre-op. Really bad butt pain, lateral hip pain, and just overall a deep joint soreness. I also have a brusing and pinching feeling on my ischial tuberosity. I never had bad groin pain, so that always confused everybody, but I did have an anterior tear. My ITB is still a little sore to the touch, like a bruise. I have had no problems with the psoas release, it has been totally fine and in fact the pain pre-op and the snapping an popping I had pre-op is now gone. Thats been the only good outcome of the surgery. Dr. Kelly found a huge amount of synovitis in the scope and has been really concerned with it since. He sent me to a rheumetologist, but everything has panned out via bloodwork so were not sure whats up with that. He thinks that the synovitis has definitely come back and with a vengence, but why we don't know. Dr. K is kind of perplexed if you will at the moment in trying to figure out why I am in so much pain still. He said he has a feeling there is something still going on in the joint cause I just had another steriod injection and it gave me about 80% pain relief. I am going to have a ct scan in June when I come up there next and we'll see where he goes from there.
Carrie

Susie said...

Wow Carrie, what a mess. Sorry you are dealing with all that crap. You think you have found the magic solution to your problem and then things dont go as planned. I hope he can figure out what the problem is soon. Keep us posted!

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Jess said...

I don't know if you'd call my surgery a failed one, I'm kind of in limbo. Labral tear debridement that turned out not really to be a tear but fraying/rubbing. Small cam impingement that I was not told about may need to be addressed in the future. Pain level not bad, worse after long periods of sitting. I do not have continual pain, just get the odd bit of achiness and nerve type zaps in my thigh. My muscles have suffered and have some ongoing glute problems that flare up with exercise, but muscles can be stretched and strengthened :-)
So, hopefully I will be able to last a few years, fit in a couple of sprogs before I need anything else to be done, fingers crossed :-)

amanda leigh said...

Hi, I am a 27 year old female from Florida as well with snapping hip syndrome in both hips. The right started first then the left. They both hurt and snap the same. I have had more Physical therapy and injection, anti inflammatory meds then most people do in a life time in the past two years. i had a Arthrogram MRI that read normal.....but my doctor disagreed, so he thought i would benefit from a Hip scope that I just had done 2 weeks ago. When he got in there he found my labrum to be completely torn so he repaired that as well as releasing my psoas tendon and cleaning out some loose bodies that was around the hip. He did the right hip first. I am scared to have the left one done now...because my pain on the outside of my right hip is sooo much worst. He choose not to do anything to the I.T band while he was in surgery when that was the original plan. He told my family that it would had been too much for me at one time to handle and because he found my labrum was torn he thought that I would get release of pain and pooping from that. The pain in my groin is gone but I still have snapping on the outside part and cry because of how painful it is it feels like someone is burning me, or stabbing me. Should i have the left side done? will the outside part of the hip ever stop hurting? What is FAV? I have a arthrogram schedule in one week for the left side but I'm thinking of canceling it. I just got married 3 months ago and was in so much pain on my wedding day...and can't enjoy what newlyweds should be enjoying. Do you have any suggestion or answer or maybe what I should do for my next step? I feel like P.t is only aggravating my problems . Any info would be helpful. Thanks.

Anonymous said...

I had my left hip scoped for a labrum tear. My doctor said I would be up and going in three months. Well, 10 months later my pain is worse and in a different location. Originally my pain was in the groin area, but now it has migrated to the front of my left hip and sometimes the outside portion of the hip even feels sore. Walking is getting more difficult. I went to another surgeon for a 2nd opinion and he said it was arthritis, which I strongly doubt. I have not been back to the original surgeon....any recommendations?

Scott

Susie said...

Scott,
My first reply when I get an email/comment like our is "do/ did you have FAI?" Is is so important for the FAI to be addressed, since it often is the cause of the labral tear. What is unusual about your case it seems is that the pain is different, I think for most of us with failed surgery, our original symptoms returned, not different post-op symptoms. Have you tried PT?And def. a third opinion!

Anonymous said...

Thanks Susie....I did have a little FAI, but it wasn't severe. The odd thing is when the docs look at the x-ray, they can't really see anything. I am going to try PT next week, so hopefully that will help. Also, taking anti-inflammatory medicine. I have never been so frustrated in all my life. I have never had any issues with my hips, but now I can't seem to get well! Thanks for the words of encouragement :-) I am convinced that something is just a little off and that I will soon be able to enjoy the little things in life, like walking....and believe me, I will appreciate them MUCH more now!

Scott

Anonymous said...

I would like to know whether anyone has essentially completely recovered after hip arthroscopy for a labral tear.

Anonymous said...

Yes, I have completely recovered from a labral tear and subsequent repair on my right hip. The healing took awhile (4 months) but now the hip feels better than ever. However, I also experienced a "failed arthroscopy" on my left hip.

The first arthroscopy on the left hip was performed for a combination cam/pincer impingement, synovectomy, and labral tear. Even though the tear was repaired, the hip felt very loose. It started subluxing a couple of weeks post op. A year later, a revision arthroscopy was performed. A loose body was removed from the joint along with a capsular plication, and a new posterior labral tear was debrided. (The posterior tear was too damaged to be repaired.) I feel sooo much better now. I just wish the instability/loose capsule was caught the first time.
The recovery from the revision surgery is really rough. Fortunately revisions are rare.

Carmen said...

I am a 53 year old male who had right hip pain for about 4 years. After going every day for about 6 months with pain, I saw an ortho doc and a MRI confirmed a labral tear. I believe most repairs are just the removal of the tear and not really a repair to the labrum. Because of my age and the reality of the labrum wearing down, the removal of more labral cartilage only made the joints closer than ever and such is where I'm at today. Not walking very good 3 1/2 months after surgery. The pain is somewhat better but the movement of the hip is worse. I was told that a replacement hip is what’s next if I decide to do it because of this fact. Slim to no cartilage between femur an acetabulam....still on pain meds and contemplating what to do...

Susie said...

A labral repair will repair the labrum, a debridement will cut out the torn piece. Not all tears can be repaired. I would first check into impingement before having a THR, which is usually the cause of a failed scope, the impingement was not addressed so the cause of the tear is still there, and you remain in pain.

Anonymous said...

Hey, Dec 2007 i started experiencing a feeling like both my hips were going to dislocate. i went throught 1 orthopedist, PT, MRI, xrays, and then bilateral injections. I was finally referred to a sports orthopedist. It took six weeks from the beginning of my seeing him to my surgery, that was how long i was waiting to see my first orthopedisst. My first surgery went well, they debrided a labral tear, and also removed damaged cartilage from the superior dome of my hip. afterward the pain wa horrible, especially when i started doing sports, eventually the pain went away after the new cartilage was shaped.... less than 4 months later i had my other hip done, and this time they found something totally different, cam FAI and a labral tear. they performed the osteoplasty, and also debrided the labral tear. it's been almost 3 months since my left hip arthroscopy and i am still in pain, and can't even do low impact sports such as swimming or biking. doctors have had me on narcotics, steroids, and now NSAID's, but none of this is giving me much relief. I need this to resolve itsself soon especially since i am supposed to work at a camp this summer! I am a senior in high school, (we needed to have this done before i entered college) and this was not how i was expecting my senior year to be like, 2 months on crutches, a lot of pain, and missing nearly 20 days of school because of the pain and surgeries. i don't know if i can say that my latest surgery is a failure, because they found something wrong with me, but i am still in pain.

~Kate~

Susie said...

Kate-
Are you in PT? The right kind of manual work is key to a good, pain free recovery. I had forgotten how important this was until now, I am on vacation with my family, my brother is 7 weeks out from his scope and having tons of soft tissue issues and pain. We are working throug it with a lot of stetching, joint mobilizations and exercises.

Anonymous said...

not really, they put me on homecare.

Kate

Total Hip said...

I think there are a lot more failed surgeries than we all know. If you consider all the marketing that goes especially into THR only the happy outcomes are highlighted.

This is my story. 2 years ago at age 45 started with right groin pain without any known injury. After six months of seeing various orthos to determine if it was my back or was it my hip I was finally diagnosed after MRI arthrogram that I had a torn right labrum. I had arthroscopic surgery in March 2008 and was pronounced a success. After initial short term recovery I started to have increasing groin and leg pain and developed a limp by June 2008. After seeing if time would make an improvement I went back to my arthroscopic surgeon in August 2008. New X-rays showed that I had gone from none to full blown osteoarthritis in just a few months. Two surgeons confirmed this diagnosis and concurred that my only option was total hip replacement. I had THR in NOvember 2008 with the minimally invasive anterior appproach during which I had the rare complication of fracturing my femur through the greater trochanter. The fracture healed post surgically with minimal weight bearing for six weeks. I then went through physical therapy with great results and was doing very well for several months. In mid-May I started all over again with thigh pain that intensifies with activity, going up steps and when I hold any weight or pivot. I have had every test to rule out prosthetic failure, infection or prothestic loosening. Now the doctor is thinking possible psoas problems even though I have never had this before. I am at my wits end and tired of doctors, tests and chronic pain. Dr. Kelly didn't do my arthroscopic surgery but did consult when I had problems and recommended THR. I am essentially back to square one in terms of resolution and return to normal life activities--not easy when you have five year old twins that need attention.

Anonymous said...

7-6-09. I am 50 male, had left THR in 11/04 due to osteoarthritis and root cause probably hip dysplasie combined with too much hardcourt singles tennis. Have had great result but always knew the right hip would be coming up in the future.

In mid 2008, while playing tennis (doubles) started getting sharp pains (almost like being stabbed with a knive) with certain movements, primarily in transition - getting in and out of the car, getting up and down out of a chair etc.). Had an MRI and two opinions and both Orthos suggested hip arthroscopy to remove "loose" cartilage that was supposedly causing problem. My surgeon said I should get some relief immediately and be back on the tennis court in 2-4 weeks.

Had my arthroscopy on 4/3/09. By 4/17/09 at my first follow up, was I not only not feeling any better, I was starting to feel pain I hadn't felt since 5 years before with my other hip arthritis. Dr. said to give it two more weeks. In next two weeks I had full blown arthritis keeping my up at night and making me unable to be very ambulatory. At next follow-up we scheduled my right THR for 6/12/09. So far after 24 days, I am progressing well, used walker for 4 days, then my cane for the next 15, and hung my cane on my walker after day 19. Don't know why but this THR has hurt a lot more than the first. I know I'm 5 years older but this has been much tougher than I remembered.

Regarding failed arthroscopy. Doc. could not give me an explanation on why that would cause my arthritis to go crazy. All he could say was that if I hadn't had arthritis, I would have gotten a lot of relief from the arthroscopy as the procedure was successful and he removed all the frayed and torn cartilage from my right hip.

If I could have a "do-over", I would have skipped the arthroscopy altogether as for the most part I was able to live with that pain, and at least I was able to stay fairly active with that pain. My arthritis would have eventually flared up again but may have been several years down the road. Once I'm rolling again, I may feel more thankful that I got the THR out of the way and can now go on with my active lifestyle (swim 2-3 days a week plus doubles tennis 2 days a week). The whole arthroscopy was such a waste of time and money.

Susie said...

If I were 50 I also would just beg for a total hip replacement and hope to be done with all of this. At 28, I need more options! I wish you all the best with your "new hips"!

Anonymous said...

Curious to know how "re-tears" are being diagnosed. I am 6 months post op from just a repair and it feels exactly how it did pre-op. The surgeon says an MRI won't show a re-tear and the only way would be to re-scope... anyone have any other experience? thanks!

Anonymous said...

wow, i am someone scheduled to have this surgery after a car crash 8 months ago with at least one of the hips only getting worse, my mri and my mra's dont show a tear but with my symptoms, pain and lack of mobility they are certain i have FAI as well as having my ligamentum capitus femoris torn off the bone at one end...(there is a little piece of bone they CAN see where it should not be, near where the ligamnet attaches to the femur)....so why doesnt it all show?? is a ct scan any better? i read about having it done 'frog legged' or 'crosstabled'...does any imaging place do that? makes sense to me if i can walk and sit straight, that the problem may not show with a straight view, it HURTS and LOCKS when I rotate it, wouldnt taking a pic of it rotated HELP?
I ahve been looking for success stories on hear and as far as Im concerned there are none.... boooo

Anonymous said...

Hy there, i'm Max from Italy. I had a bad car crash in 2001, hip and acetabular broken. Now i am 28, i suffer of artritis and my joint is creating a big ostephite in the back sides.

I fell almost ok, i can walk for many hours and dance at the club, just little pain.
No more sport except swimming and some gym.

But what i should do? Remove the FAI or stay like that?

I don't know!

Please any raccomadations welcome!

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Susie said...

There are plenty of success stories, those people don't have the need to blog and vent and write excessively about their experience. I had both hips done and one of them is great, it has been 2 years since the surgery.

Max in Italy, I can't tell you what to do, although I can tell you that bone spurs in the joint will cause a lot of pain, but you need to figure out what caused them to grow back and how can you guarantee that they won't come back again.

Max from Italy said...

this osteophite is stuck between the femor and the hip, and it has taken 6 years to grow as big as a peanut.
It should grow up slower if i would do a less active life.

The doctor here in Italy want to surgery by arthoscopy soon, even if he isn't completly able to remove the backsides ostheophite, but the frontside one. Anyone can suggest me a good doctor, even in the States, who is able to remove the backside osthoephites.

I will need to surgery in the next 5 years, I'II be 33 old, and arthroscopy is my only chance i've got instead of THR.

Thanks

Susie said...

If it needs to come out and you are willing to travel, Bryan Kelly in New York City

h said...

I have been diagonosed with a labral tear in my right hip. But since having an artherogram (the injection included steriods and other goodies) I have had hardly any discomfort -over 6 months now. With just weeks to go before an arthroscopy I am urgently considering pulling out. I am spoilt with a top surgeon and BUPA healthcare, but if it hardly hurts anymore maybe it is simply a risk. Any opinions? The discomfort got pretty bad over 2 or three years prior to diagnosis. I am 39 and osteo arthritis runs in the family.

Susie said...

h- you may want to consider postponing the surgery, some poeple do get significant relief from the steroids. You may want to speak with your surgeon about this, also, do you have FAI, or just a labral tear, it may chnage things depending on the answer

Charlie said...

I've been looking for ages for info on whether people ever need second surgery. My doc recommended surgery for impingment after just looking at x-rays. He didn't say there would be any chance of it not being successful. I was on crutches for 4 weeks then had a little bit of pain after I started walking again but it eased off so I was really pleased. After about another 3 weeks it got really sore (worse than before the surgerry). I see my physio and the surgeon in 2 weeks, I'm really worried that I'll need more surgery because I'm supposed to be starting uni in September and cannot miss it!

Sarah said...

I am 17 years old and just had an arthroscopy on my right hip for an impingement and a pretty bad labral tear. The pinching in my buttocks and the groin pain are still present (in abundance!) post-op. The pain only worsened with physical therapy, and I developed a very noticeable limp (more so than before surgery). Does any of this sound familiar to anyone, and if so, am I looking at a failed arthroscopy or more surgery? This is really a pain in the butt. Pun intended.

Susie said...

Sarah- how long ago was your surgery? The first 6 weeks can be tough. But, most people with failed surgery (that I have spokn to) report that "the pre-op pain came back". I'm sorry that you have to go through this.

Anonymous said...

I had a hip scope in March 2010. My surgeon said I had 3 different pretty bad tears. I had a fairly large amount of bone removed also due to FAI - Cam type. I also had a synovectomy and bursectomy. I thought I was doing great. I finally got released to start walking for exercise, but was told to stay on flat surface as I have some acetablum version problems remaining. After walking a few times, I tried walking outside which wasn't flat -- my mistake. It's been almost 5 weeks and I feel exactly the way I did before surgery. My surgeon thinks it's just tendonitis, but I think it's another tear. Any chance of an MRA picking up on the tear? I know my first MRA didn't see all three of mine the first time. Thanks -- Kim

Anonymous said...

I had fai surgery 3 months ago and my groin pain has come back. Hurts when my leg moves and sleep like pre-op pain. I have been doing PT and the PT person says probably just tight groin muscle. he does stretch it and it feels better then the pain comes back. I also went to a great Doctor at University Buffalo. All he does are these surgery even for pro sports players. I am hoping that its still taking time for the surgery to heal but im getting impatient and worried. Sitting makes it worse.

Lilly said...

Hey guys,
basically I have the same story. Last summer at age 26 I had an arthroscopic debridement to clean up a nasty tear. I remember as soon as I woke up from surgery I could feel the difference! 3 months later, my hip felt great and I was able to go back to the gym, run, etc. At 6 months post up, I woke up one day and noticed my hip started to ache again. Within about 2 weeks, it felt exactly as it did post-op. As time went on, it began to feel even worse than before. The surgeon suspected there was an extension of the tear and it was confirmed on an arthrogram-MRI. 2 weeks ago I just had a second arthroscopic debridement along with an osteoplasty of the femoral head. The femoral head didn't look too bad on X-rays but I guess it's better safe to be sorry because we don't know for sure what is causing the tearing.

This time though, I still can't tell if it worked. I know it's early but I don't feel a difference yet. If that isn't bad enough, my hip seems like it now rattles a bit...there's some 'clunking' going on. I'm still doing protected weight bearing with crutches but hope it clears up soon as I need two legs for my job!

An interesting note...I had found a paper on failed arthoscopies that said something like if you have hip dysplasia (such as myself), arthroscopic debridement alone many times doesn't suffice and a second surgery involving osteoplasty may be needed.

Pam said...

All of this is making me very sad. I had a horrible superior labral tear, ripped the cartilage right off the bone. It took me a year to get a proper diagnosis, then I had to wait 4 months to have surgery to repair the tear, December 2008. I don't have any impingement and my femoral heads are not malformed.

Things felt pretty good up until about 3 months after surgery. 6 months after surgery, since I was still having some pain, my Dr. suggested I stop going to physical therapy. The pain never went away.

Had an MRI arthogram 8 months after my surgery, and everything looked perfect. Then April of this year(2010) I decided that something had to change, because aside from my hip pain, my left knee was beginning to feel like it was being pulled to the left. So, my surgeon referred me to a physiatrist. She put me on Diclofenac, and I began to make excellent progress in physical therapy. Then, 3 months ago, something happened, possibly at physical therapy. And the pain has been horrendous and unresponsive to meds ever since.

Had another MRI arthrogram 10/29/10 (my 3rd). Results were inconclusive, but no tear was detected. It was also mentioned to me that I am showing early signs of arthritis in the joint (yay, just what every 33 yr old wants to hear). Went over the MRI results with my physiatrist and a hip specialist who didn't perform my surgery. All results were inconclusive...apparently things are still a mystery, and now I have some strange foreign body in the cartilage, but it's not a bone, doesn't show up in X-Rays.

The hip specialist gave me very little hope, in fact, he made me feel that going back in would probably be a mistake.

I'm considering getting a 2nd or even a 3rd opinion. But, it seems a lot of the data available online, is not in favor of revision surgery. I'm frustrated and I'm not sure I know what to do next.

Susie said...

Pam- yur case sounds complicated and my guess is that despite what you have been told, you do have some sort of FAI. I would try to get an opinion from one of the top hip scope docs, who see alot more FAI than most OS. If they agree that you don't have FAI, then I would believe it. Email me if you need help with that.

anonymous said...

I am a 22 year old male and I had a hip arthroscopy done on my left hip after about 7 months of pain. The surgey was for FAI - included debridement, microfracture, removal of loose bodies, and removal of the extra cam lesion.

I'm 7 months post-op and definitely feel better than before. However, at times I do notice some soreness in the joint and am worried taht it might be early stage arthritis. I've also had surgery on my right hip, done about 6 weeks ago, but they didn't remove the bone spur. I'm hoping everything works out but no one seems to know what will happen long term...

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lizzi6 said...

Hello,

I am writing because I'm at a lose with my current hip situation. I was hoping for some insight.

I had a scope on my left hip in early August of 2011. It had gone undiagnosed for a significant period of time. the surgery included a bursecotomy, a labral debridement, FAI bone trimming and a psoas tendon release. the recovery was not at all how I expected. yes, I know it's a slow recovery, but this was a snails pace. PT was steady but, I really struggled with Pain and inflammation. I was on 2 crutches for 6 wks, one crutch for 3 wks and then used a cane for 2+ months ( I am still using it!) during the first month of recovery, my right hip piped up and joined the party. A labral tear was was debrided and FAI bone trimming was performed in a right hip scope In early November 2011. We caught the problem early it seemed and that surgery was a wild success compared to the left hip.

Now, I have had continued pain and intense swelling that will not respond to NASAID's on the left side. An MRA last week shows no re-tear of the labrum. What it did show, was an inordinate amount of inflammation. This is puzzling, if there is no tear, what is irritating and inflaming the joint? I am at a complete lose. The joint in most ways feels worse then it did before surgery. It is loose feeling, I prefer to hold it while I walk to add some stability, I can't sit upright for longer then an hour, and I have shooting pain down the front of the leg, with numbness in my heal (?) as I understand a lot of work was done in the joint during surgery, and so a longer recovery is necessary. but, I am how 5 months post op and I'm wondering when do you stop and say, it should have healed, or I should be feeling better by now?

I do have a fantastic doctor, I completely trust him. He is supposed to call this coming week. My question is about other possibilities, Arthritis (the dreaded) or something that an MRA wouldn't pick up. I am a healthy 28 year old woman, a THR is not ideal in the least. Should I get a second opinion? I really don't want to live a life in Pain!

elena said...

Lizzie,
So sorry that you had so much discomfort! I really cant add any info due to being less than a week post-op. I keep waiting to feel better; however each day brings a different pain or ache. My thigh pain is very annoying. Today, i am having discomfort reclining in my recliner. It seems as though recovery from this surgery can be very discouraging. Hope you feel better soon!
Elens

lizzi6 said...

Elena,

Thank you for the sympathy! and you have mine as well, I really is a tough in the beginning. Hang in there and be nice to yourself. You will get through it :)

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Anonymous said...

So happy to find this, now I am hoping people are still reading/checking this blog.

4 weeks ago I had a cyst causing an impingement in the hip and the DR also found a partial labrum tear. Went ahead with the arthroscopy. 2 weeks post-op I felt pretty darn great with little pain. I "pushed" my rehab exercises a bit and the next day I found I have a "new" extremely sharp pain. Lateral movements in my leg inwards causes a extremely painful sharp pain. DR thinks it's soft tissue that has "moved", while the operating DR says it's normal.

4 weeks now after post-op and 2 weeks after feeling the new pain and the pain has not decreased at all. I am wondering what everyone thinks? Dr says very rare for the anchors to detach. Walking straight (small/medium light steps) and walking up and down stairs is fine...it's whenever there's the slightest movement laterally inward.

What does everyone think? Normal? Fully torn labrum? Thanks for everyone's opinions...

Anonymous said...

Hey everyone,
I had left hip arthroscopy for FAI (mixed cam/pincer involvement, labial tear) at the end of Feb. '12. I was originally healing very well and feeling better almost every day... until 8 weeks post op.
Two weeks ago I tripped over a gas pump line while pumping my gas. I should've fallen, but caught myself. My left hip popped very loudly and I instantly felt extreme pain to the point where I was doubled over screaming. I am still having a lot of pain (almost worse than before surgery, pain at night too). It feels like a deep stabbing or burning pain. It is around most of the day. Ibuprofen helps some for a shot time, but it always comes back. The pain is deep in the joint and sometimes it feels like I can't take a full stride... like I'm being stopped by something.
What are the odds that I could re injure myself 8 weeks post op just by twisting quickly the wrong way?
Tiffany

lizzi6 said...

I just wanted to give a summation to my situation for those of you who are struggling to find answers when surgery/recovery doesn't turn out how it's supposed to.

It has been a year since I had the original surgery on the left hip. I had more then the ordinary amount of pain, inflammation and difficulty healing from the surgery then it seemed others, the "normal" people. But without time my surgeon could not adequately assess wether I may just take longer the heal then most or that there was a problem with the process. During this time, I tried pushing myself harder through pain and amping up PT, I tried quitting PT altogether and laying on the couch all day. I tried acupuncture, creams, drinks, diet changes, message, muscular skeletal manipulation, and a new PT. all the while trying to decide if I was just a whimp or if something was still wrong with the hip. After 10 months of suffering in pain and being unable to work, my doc decided it was time to see what was going on.

It turned out my labrum (the one he repaired) instead of healing like it should into heathy cartilage healed into scar tissue which caught when I walked and irritated the joint and surrounding tissues. He at first tried to remove the scaring but it went all the way through the labrum. so he replaced the labrum with an allograft from a cadaver.

Now, I am doing amazingly well. I never reached this point the last go around and I am only 11 wks out from the operation. I can walk cane free and strength train pain free too. I want to emphasize that this procedure aims to solve the problem but it is often imperfect . Even if your surgeon does everything text book correct (as mine did) you body has to do the rest. Many people have failed scopes, complications and trials trying to figure out how to get well. Hang in there. There can be a light at the end of the tunnel!

Melanie said...

Tiffany, I am curious to know how you are doing and if you ended up re-injuring yourself or if you got better. I am almost 4 weeks postop and feeling amazing! I'd really like to push my rehab but I don't want any setbacks. Thanks, Melanie

Mel g said...

Hi Lizzie- I'm curious to know if your first surgery was straight forward or if it was a bad tear. Did you also have any sort of osteoplasty? I am about 4.5 weeks out from a straight forward repair and I have felt great until recently but most of my pain is in the tfl and it band and trochanter bursa. I don't think it's the actual joint but I'm not sure. Did you have bad joint pain right away? You can email me directly at greenmelmel@yahoo.com. Thanks!

Anonymous said...

Hi everyone. 40 yr old. I'm day 7 post-op from right hip arthroscopy.I had a compete labral tear, cyst, cam and pincer corrections. I have had no pain at all yet. Just a little muscle stiffness buttock, calves, hamstring etc. More from walking 50% weight bearing on crutches. It did take 2 days for my blood pressure to go up. It is normally low and then dropped bit lower. So I was very dizzy and nauseous. The left hip is getting worse and I look forward to that surgery in 6 weeks. HSS in NYC. Its a bit rushed to get you discharged, but I'm very pleased thus far.

Suzie said...

Hello All - I am status post a right labral hip tear in mid January. My post op course was uneventful and I as doing fabuously unti abou a week ago. Out of the blue the pain I was experiecing before surgery in my groin and outer hip/thigh region has returned. At physical therapy this evening I could feel an obvious clicking when the therapist was stretching me out. I am worried at this point that I may have a subsequent tear or that the surgery was not successful. Has anyone else experienced this during the post op course and if so was if just part of the healing process or should I be worried?

Richard Jackson said...

Your expeirence sounds exactally like mine. My surgery was Oct 31st and I still have a very painful limp usually after being on my feel for more than about 15 minutes. Others I have found say you get better between 3 and 4 mo. and recovered about 6 mo. My surgeon also said 12 week recovery? I am very frustrated also. I see my surgeon tomorrow and I plan on asking for a post op MRI. I am also going to start the process of getting a second opinion. This just doesn't feel right to me.

Anonymous said...

I am beyond depressed. I had a labral tear repair in 3/12. I was also found to have a snapping tendon that was released, and some reshaping of the bones. I have a terrible time walking, esp standing up and starting to walk once I'm sitting or lying down. I have chronic pain. All exercises hurt. I have tried PT, chiropractic and acupuncture. Nothing helps. I do feel to blame tho'. 3.5 months post-surgery I went to the beach, and then shortly thereafter, I went dancing. I'm 50, so shouldn't. But I was a former ballet dancer and did yoga 4x per week, so felt I would be fine.

Kelley Clink said...

Hi all. Had arthroscopy 5 weeks ago for labral tear and FAI. Was doing very well until last week, when I started to come off crutches. Now I am having muscle spams, intense pain, and I'm back on two crutches and my brace. Terrified that something is wrong, as I've been taking it easy for several days now with very little improvement. PT says I haven't been walking around enough to have tendonitis. I can't do ANY of the exercises I have been doing, not even the ones I did first week post-op. Anyone had a big setback like this trying to come off crutches? Any advice? I am going in to see the PA tomorrow. I'm terrified. It was 2 years before I even got diagnosed, and I am so sick of being in pain.

Anonymous said...

I had arthroscopic surgery on both hips 2 years ago. I had the hip balls rounded, the labral tears cleaned up, the cam impingements removed, and I had microfracture on one side. I got pregnant 5 months after the 2nd surgery. I was in so much pain before surgery that I never could have endured a pregnancy, so I'm grateful that I was able to have my little boy afterwards. When I went for my 2 year appointment in the fall & had an MRI done, they found out the impingements had grown back & the labral tears were back as well. I just had two more surgeries completed. Along with the same things as last time, they also removed 2 loose bodies which turned out to be sutures from the first surgeries. They had popped out and then scar tissue had grown on top of them. The only good news was that scar tissue had grown back where I had the microfracture done last time. I had a great surgeon, so I don't think he messed up. We hypothesize that the sutures popped out when I was in labor with my child. We're hoping to get pregnant as soon as I finish this round of PT in June. I'm praying the damage doesn't come back again since I feel like I've spent so much time with recovery.

Steve said...

I'm a 28 year old male and I had my left side done in August 2012 and right side in February 2013 by Dr. McGrath in Buffalo. My left side had a severe labral tear, along with combination FAI osteoplasty. My right side, the labral tissue was beginning to fray, so there was a cleanup, along with the combination osteoplasties. I am struggling with the left side to date, my right side is fine. The pain returned in the left side at around the one month mark, my right side has not experienced this. It's frustrating to ride my bike and hours later, the left side completely flares up for days, and feels like pre-op. Before all of this, I rode 200+ miles/week in the spring through fall. Now, I'm lucky if I can manage 50 miles/week.

I had another opinion, as the 6 month x-ray showed regenerated bone and narrowing that may be the issue. The new doctor said give it the full year and keep up PT, which I'm willing to do, but the pain is frustrating. Another thing to note is that my right side is actually stronger than the left. I have constant anterior rotations of my left pelvis, and my right side glutes are clearly stronger and visibly larger than the left. I'm hoping if I can fix this weakness, it will solve my pain, it's all I have to hope for at this point.

Anonymous said...

I had FAI surgery, labral repair, a synovectomy and a ligamentum teres repair surgery at the beginning of january. I am still in agonizing pain. The pain in my groin is gone, but i habe pain on the outside of my hip and buttock pain. If i sit for more than 10 min, the front of my hip gets really tight and i can barely walk. Is this normal? When can i expect the pain to go away? Can anyone offer some advice? I am in pain every day and i walk with a limp that i cant seem to fix. Someone please help me!!!!! :(

Anonymous said...

Hi,
I am in such a deep depression right now. I have had hip pain for over 2 years, have seen 7 different doctors about, have had numerous injections, and most recently had a cam and pincer FAI surgery and labral detachment repair (the surgeon said my labrum had folded back onto itself). I am 8 weeks post-op today and in the same amount of pain I was in pre-op. I feel like I am never going to be okay again. The pain is just unbearable. I cannot function like a normal person at all. I am supposed to be back at work now, the pain is too much for me to even consider being on my feet for 8-10 hours a day. I have been trying to find a desk job, but that doesn't seem to be panning out, either...plus it hurts to sit upright for that long as well. I don't know what to do now. I can't even go grocery shopping without it ending with me near tears. I just want to cry. I just want to be normal again.
-Pam

lizzi6 said...

Pam,

I, and a lot of other people know how you feel. I'm so sorry. Reading you post reminds me of the drug hazy agony I went through last year. All I can say is be patient with your body, Get a new doctor if they arn't taking your pain seriously and get help. Serioulsly! I went on antidepressants right before my second hip scope. They helped me pull through this mess.

Anonymous said...

I am so sorry to hear all your story's but on the other hand happy to know I am not the only one out here!
I am 41 yr old in the uk,was told I have fai in both hips 4yrs ago now but was too heavy to get the surgery done nearly 400lbs(26 stones)! But lost a lot of weight to get my right hip fixed(cam and pincer) in nov 12,at first it felt so good right away I was flying so to speak even the OT released me early as I was doing so well,I joined a gym and was exercising 6 days a week ect,even with one bad hip! Then slowly at first it started to ache and about 7weeks ago now it became bad so I had to stop the gym and just go back to gentle walking but I have even had to stop that now and am basically stuck on a couch all day doing nothing just taking 2different sorts of pain meds I notice a difference in my "fixed" hip daily I can do less by the day and at the rate it is going I will be in a wheelchair by Xmas....... No lie.
I don't see the surgeon for another 2 weeks yet so I don't know what is going on....it is great to hear others do have problems also
Good luck to you all x

Anonymous said...

My daughter is 15. Tore her right hip labrum last year playing soccer. She had surgery in march in buffalo to repair the labrum with 3 anchors and to fix the impingment. 6 weeks postop she fell during PT and has been in pain ever since. She had another MRI early August and it did not show a re-tear but did show that her capsule was stretched which is what her doctor assumed since she slipped. He advised her to join her school soccer team again and get out and play. And she did. Been playing 70 min games for 2 weeks now. Still in pain but has all her strength back.
At this point we don't know what to do. Her surgeon is very well known orthopedic in the buffalo area. We travel 4 hours to see him. He said they can do another surgery to retighten the capsule but he rather not and wants to see if it goes away on it's own.
Has anyone here gone thru anything similar? Well a stretched capsule cause pain? She runs and sprints like pre-injury. And will it eventually heal on it's own?

Susie said...

A capsule cannot tighten back on its own. An u stable hip due to capsular laxity will be very painful regardless of strength. I have had a lot of experience with this and I would say you may want to get a second opinion to assess the labrum as well and make sure it is not contributing to any instability. Best of luck

Susie said...

A capsule cannot tighten back on its own. An u stable hip due to capsular laxity will be very painful regardless of strength. I have had a lot of experience with this and I would say you may want to get a second opinion to assess the labrum as well and make sure it is not contributing to any instability. Best of luck

Anonymous said...

Thanks. I'm not sure what it is going on. Nor how much it really bothers her. You wouldn't be able to tell by watching her play. She sprints and kicks like pre injury. She says she just painful at times. We go back to doctor in three weeks for checkup. Mri was good. Showed some mild fraying of the labrum but was told that was just normal with wear and tear and wasn't causing this pain. She doesn't really want another operation at this point and miss another full soccer season again. She says she plays thru the pain fine and doesn't think about it. But it sucks as a parent to keep seeing her go thru that.

Anonymous said...

Hello and thanks for reading. Question. My daughter is two weeks post-op from torn labrum and fai surgery. She still complains of her groin catching when she uses her exercise bike. We have a two week postop with doc tomorrow but just wondering if this can still be normal so soon after surgery. Other than catching sensation all seems well.

Susie said...

Was catching her only symptom pre-op? Could be a snapping psoas that a PT can address

Anonymous said...

Catching was her main symptom. Both inside and outside hip. Of course a ton of pain also. Lots of popping noises also. Mri arthogram with 3t machine showed a subtle tear in labrum. Due to her age and her being an inspiring athlete we decided surgery was probably best. She had her right hip done in march hence my above threads. After she returned to soccer her right hip finally started to feel better. Of course now that she is on crutches her right hip is sore and pops every now and then but we shake that off as normal since it's working double time. She officialy starts pt next week in a pool for a month before she starts land exercises. She is just worried about the catching still going on. She doesn't want to miss another important season. She was working on a scholarship in soccer and is now afraid that she might have to let the dream go. It's funny how much changes is one years time.. healthy 15 year old athlete to now two hip surgerys.

Susie said...

It's still early in recovery so I would continue icing and wait. I'm sure you found an excellent surgeon for her since she is an aspiring athlete so the job should be done correctly

Brook said...

I have had failed FAI repair. One on both of my hips in 2011. After the first surgery I gained a new burning pain below my buttocks and posterior knee. My hips did pretty good for about 6 months and the pain gradually came back now leaving me worse than i was before. I see a dr in St Louis. He seems real good but is stumped to why my pain has returned. I have exhausted physical therapy and injections which neither gave relief. Which diagnostically should have. My back has been ruled out. During surgeries they found very large labral tear, major CAM impingement, and arthritis was found on both hips. I am now considering THR. I am now 34. Basically home bound. In pain whether I move or not. Any suggestions?

Susie said...

Sorry to hear about this. Had anyone checked your hamstring? Tendonitis/ tendinosis is extremely common. I was just able to correct the return of hamstring tendonitis with eccentric hamstring exercises. Ask your PT to help you or feel free to email me and I can send you pics. There is an excellent hip surgeon in St Louis, prob one of the best in the country, if he is not who you are seeing then make an appointment to see him for a second opinion.

Brook said...

I see Dr Clohisy in St Louis. I love and respect him but I'm beyond ready to either do another hip scope or THR. He only wants me to keep therapy and see a main management. Therapy is making me worse. To the point I don't want to get out of bed. Which is completely opposite of my previous life. Yes we have worked on hamstring. No luck there. Turns out I did have nerve damage from surgery. My leg was numb for 2 years post op. after several rounds of steroids it has stopped leaving a burning sensation posterior knee. The intensity varies really.

Brook said...

Few questions:
Has anyone not had any relief from steroid injections in hip but has had relief from hip scope or THR? Since I have not had relief from shots dr says it doesn't look good for me to improve.
Has any heard of Dr. Smith in LaGrange IL (Chicago) thinking about getting second opinion. (I see dr Clohisy in STL)
Kudos Susie for keeping this site going for so many years! Thank you so much! I know I'm not the only one out there that feels this way but it sure can feel like it :)
Any dr suggestions?
Am I crazy for wanting THR at 34?

Anonymous said...

15 yo daughter.. had fai-labrum surgery on December 18th..just started aqua therapy this week..her biggest complaint before surgery was lots of groin pain, but now she is almost 1 month post op and states her groin hurts more now then before surgery..she is still non weight bearing... we don't see doc till end of January.. is this normal for her to still have so much pain after surgery? almost 4 weeks post op..thanks

Susie said...

Anonymous- my gut feeling says something is not right but you should definitely see the orthopedic surgeon to get things checked out. It's possible that she is experiencing psoas pain from compensation and possibly not using her crutches correctly

Anonymous said...

yeah, we are just very very concerned that this was not fixed. or that maybe it was not the labrum tear that was bothering her in the first place and something unrelated and was a wasted surgery... there was a small tiny tear though that was fixed... very odd

Anonymous said...

my daughter is now six weeks post op and still no relief from surgery.. her groin is still catching all the time and still lots of pain. she has been off crutches one week now and has just started her dry therapy(was in pool for 4 weeks)
saw the doctor last week and he is not concerned with the catching and the pain.. says its all normal. when she had the fai surgery on her other hip last spring she was relieved of all these systems right away.. this one is so much different..
this is so sad for her.. going into 11th grade next year.. was a promising young soccer player trying for a scholarship and has now missed the past season with these hips. If this surgery failed on her left hip another surgery will end her 11th grade season and end all hope for college.. she is so upset.. soccer was her life... Her doctor still is not worried and tells her to come back in 6 weeks and will be back playing spring soccer in april. He is a very well known doctor in the buffalo area..
Has anyone else experienced the continued catching six weeks Post-op? once again she had the FAI labrum repair..thanks

Anonymous said...

Here we are, now 9 weeks post op for my 15 yo daughter... still having tons and tons of catching and pain in her groin.. same as pre-op...catching has never stopped... Her therapist says its her psos muscle and that it has to calm down before it gets relief... I talked to her dr on phone last week and he says the same thing..says its very normal to still have a lot of catching if that psos is acting up... This never happened to her other hip after that surgery..this is all new... its been catching now for over six months... and surgery never relived it..
We go back to doctor in two weeks and he says he will give her a shot in her hip..
does any of this sound normal???

Susie said...

An injection can be the first step to diagnosing what is truly wrong. If the psoas injection helps then you know it is the psoas

Anonymous said...

sussie, thank you.. we are hoping that the shot relieves it...Of course if the shot does stop the catching, then the thaught starts creeping into the mind that it was this tendon all along and maybe the fai surgery was kind of wasted??? the reason she had surgery was for all the catching in her groin... either way, im hoping that if the catching stops with an injection that is all that is needed.. I hope this does not mean another surgery for her... she only has one year left to play her highschool soccer and she really wants to play her senior year...to think, two years ago she was all state and working on scholarship.... that dream is fading...

hacksaw said...

It's awful to read all of this, but I'm hoping someone here can help me. You are all writing about possible failed surgeries. What do you do when you can't get anyone to do surgery?!
I've been home-bound for 2 and 1/2 years with bilateral hip/butt/thigh burning/stabbing pain since car accident in which I had a sub-trohanteric femur fracture. Been to hip orthos and pain docs and numerous therapies to no avail. Original surgeon refused to help me. Feel suicidal b/c I have no life. Docs don't listen to you or examine you, they only care about test results and pushing pills. So if they can't see what you're describing, it doesn't exist, so they won't do surgery. Couldn't have contrast or other dye for MRIs, so it's possible that some things were missed. Finally was told one hip has torn labrum, and the other has "bursitis". Doc said it's not worth doing surgery for. But the pain is equal on both sides, plus snapping/ catching on the left (surgery side). It's been all this time, I'm in agony, can't eat from pain and 97 lbs, and barely "walking" on quad cane. I'm in south Florida and don't know what to do now. Other patients have mild pain and minimal showings on MRIs and their docs do surgery. With the passage of time and no remedy, my entire body is on chronic stabbing fire.
Another problem: some docs refuse to see me. One won't see me b/c I was in a car accident. One won't see me b/c I'm 50 (female), and he only sees patients 49 and under. Yet his website has a testimonial from a 52 year old and shows photos of patients in their senior years. One doc won't see me b/c it's not a sports injury, but his website says he sees everyone. Who do you go to see in south Florida who will listen and examine you properly? Sorry this post is so convoluted; I am desperate b/c of this relentless pain and don't want to be here much longer if I can't get proper help. I am not living; I am merely existing at this point. I would like to know: where are all the Florida people going for their care? Am I the only one who's experiencing this? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

Susie said...

Hacksaw- I am so sorry you are going through this. I unfortunately have no great recommendations in south Florida. My brother lives there and ended hip surgery and I made him come to nyc. One of m really good friends is also in Florida and has had all of her hip surgeries in ny as well. If you want specific recommendations feel free to email me.

hacksaw said...

Thank you for your reply, Susie. Thank you for your compassion.
Can you please explain a little more about your brother "ending hip surgery" in south Florida?
In NY, are you referring to the famous hip arthroscopist at HSS?

Susie said...

He needed hip surgery... Was a typo. Yes. That is who did his surgery.

hacksaw said...

Susie, how did your brother do after his surgery? Was it successful?

Anonymous said...

Susie, have you heard of the PSOS tendon causing tons of catching issues before? her PT and Doc seems to think its normal and will go away once her core muscles are built up..... if I google I come up with horror stories and people saying not normal.. I should stop googling....

Susie said...

Hacksaw- yes. It was successful. He is a triathlete and continues to compete

Susie said...

Anonymous- you seem to have a lot of doubts about the success of your daughters surgery. Why not get a second opinion instead of continuing to wonder if her surgeon fixed the problem. Better to address it now than continue to wait

Shannan Wright said...

I am 11 days post op from my hip arthroscopy. I had cam and pincer impingement, labral repair with stitches, some kind of tendon was involved but I'm not sure what. I did great for the first 5 days! I was so excited after 3 years of pain to not be hurting. However, my pain has begun to increase since. I've been doing pt twice a week and several times a day at home, icing after each time. A couple days ago I absentmindedly squatted down to pick up the phone I dropped. Big no no as my post surgery protocol says no external rotation or bending past 90 degrees. I'm nervous as to whether I did any damage but the nurses don't seem to think so. The increased pain is scaring me, a lot. Looking for some positive feedback. My surgery was done by an amazing surgeon, Thomas Byrd in Nashville.

Susie said...

I wouldn't be too concerned about increased pain at 11 days. The recovery is a roller coaster ride of ups and downs

Joey Samudio said...

I have had one hip surgery to repair a torn right labrum. I am now experiencing pain worse than before and it is 7 months out. I have now been told I have FAI caused by both my femur and the cup of my hip. I have had a few doctors tell me that repairing the labrum again will fail and that I have to have new cartilage grafted in, as well as getting my bones reshaped. Has anyone else experienced something like this? If so did they graft in new cartilage or just repair the labrum again? Was it successful?

Susie said...

If you have FAI it needs to be addressed before doing anything to the labrum, whether repairing it or augmenting it. That decision is not as important as addressing the underlying cause to Labral damage which is the Fai.

Anonymous said...

Follow up to my 15 yo daughter..who has constant pain and catching still... 3 months post op..same symptoms as pre surgery....saw doc yesterday. he says it looks like adhesive capsulitis??? says that she is extremely tight...she needs to stretch stretch and then stretch some more....is giving her six more weeks..if no improvement then he says he can scope it again to clean it up.. but is hopeful with more PT and more stretching that this will fix it.. I hope so.. I have never heard of this condition... but he is thinking this is what she is suffering from.

Janice said...

Hi there. I'm 33 years old and I can barely walk. I had an arthroscopic hip repair July 2011 for a large tear in the cartilage on the head of the femur. The doctor shaved down the entire head because he also felt I had a shallow hip joint and that was part of my problem. He punctured holes in the head of the femur in hopes that my body would create a callus to absorb some of the shock since cartilage does not regenerate well, if at all. Recovery went well, considering. I was up and moving again, mostly like normal, about 6 months later. About a year ago I started having intense pain in my hip again. I went back to the doctor almost a year ago and he told me there was really nothing I could do, short of a replacement. He said I could try to manage the pain with NSAIDs, cortisone shots and gel injections (that are not approved by the FDA or insurance for the hip joint), but that there was no guarantee that those would even work. I've had no luck with the steroids or the NSAIDs. The gel injections are expensive, like $1300 for a round of 3 shots and that's just for the prescription. I'd still have to pay for the actual procedure on top of that. At this point I'm limping so bad now that my lower back is being pulled in an uncomfortable position. My hip pops loudly as I walk. My mother can't stand to watch me move around because of how much pain I look like I'm in. My friends and coworkers are constantly commenting on my limp and how they feel sorry for me, which drives me crazy. I feel like I'm way to young to even consider a full replacement. I'm not sure if the doctor classifies this as a successful situation, but I can assure that I do not consider this successful by any means. Judging by the last set of xrays, I think that when he shaved the femur down, it wasn't rounded out. It doesn't move at all like it should.

Susie said...

At 33 I would try to find a hip preservation doctor who can help you and potentially fix anything not caught uh the first doctor

Shelby said...

18 year old female with mixed FAI, two grade 2 labrum tears, torn adductors, frayed/torn hip-flexor, and psoas release (all happened from playing soccer)was "fixed" in a hip scope I had in November of 2013. Pain is the same if not worse than before surgery but I am twenty times tighter than before surgery. Currently loud painful pops occur with every step and I cannot sit/stand/walk more than 5 minuets at a time. Narcotics are needed nightly to sleep :( My doctor kind of ignored the fact that everything still hurts after 5 months. He ended my physical therapy in early January saying I had done too much too soon, but I followed protocol so closely there is no way that is the case. Since, the doc has rule the pain as bursitis.. Which I KNOW it's not!! This hip stuff is so painful and debilitating... I hope I see some success stories on here soon, but enjoy hearing other people's similar stories... It is very helpful to see I'm not alone and other people have problems too!

Anonymous said...

Hi Shelby, My 15 yo daughter going thru same thing..had right hip surgery to repair fai last march... 6 months recovery, came back and played fall soccer and tore labrum in left hip... had fai surgery in December... 4 months out and her catching and hip pain is still the same as pre-surgery... very very very tight... but the catching is what is concerning... PT thinks is the psoias tendon... she has a MRI setup for this week to check the labrum again... doc doesn't think its the labrum though..says this is normal...even though her right leg went smooth last year...
she will be 16 this august and entering her junior season...she still hopeful to return to soccer, but after 4 months of rehab this is all up in the air.... it stinks to see you young girls go thru this.....

Anonymous said...

Hi Shelby, My 15 yo daughter going thru same thing..had right hip surgery to repair fai last march... 6 months recovery, came back and played fall soccer and tore labrum in left hip... had fai surgery in December... 4 months out and her catching and hip pain is still the same as pre-surgery... very very very tight... but the catching is what is concerning... PT thinks is the psoias tendon... she has a MRI setup for this week to check the labrum again... doc doesn't think its the labrum though..says this is normal...even though her right leg went smooth last year...
she will be 16 this august and entering her junior season...she still hopeful to return to soccer, but after 4 months of rehab this is all up in the air.... it stinks to see you young girls go thru this.....

Shelby said...

It sounds like your daughter and i are having the same issues. I would love to hear her story if you want to email me at sncsoccer15@gmail.com. Did she have a psoas release during her previous surgery? Has your doctor brought up a second surgery? I'm so done with the "try this and wait 8 weeks" injections and therapy. I really hope she makes it back for soccer... I didn't :(

Anonymous said...

My daughter had her MRI yesterday.. results came back..talked to doctor last night and he informed that the MRI showed nothing... surgery site looks good.. no retear of the labrum. it did show a tight Psois tendon... he said to keep stretching that tendon.. but does want her to start running at PT... her therapist says that sometimes if they get running it might help loosing that muscle up also as it triggers even more muscles to work.... This is a great mystery.. Not so much the pain but the catching in the groin.. this is 8 months now of constant catching.... two mris and a fai surgery and still catching... confused....

Toni Eckstein said...

Hello "anonymous mom"! I am now 32 years old; about a decade post-multiple-surgeries (open, scope, PT, u name it). Hip issues reared their ugly head as a teen, found "accurate" (tho I use the term relatively loosely) during college years (til my AMAZING dr moved across the country), graduated college, got married, lost health insurance, been coping via "pain management" options ever since. That's the abridged version anyway! I'm reaching out because u remind me of my own mother, & all the things SHE went thru (via my issues), thru the years. I am not so tech-savvy, & found this page while piddling with my new (1st ever) smartphone...which I don't intend to use for much more than phone calls/texting... I'm worried I may not find this page again on my computer. SO... in case this is the 1st & last time I have the opportunity to reach out to u, my email is: tonijeckstein@gmail.com. I wish my mother (& I) could've had someone to talk to that could provide a fast-forward snapshot of my 20's & on. Every kid is different; every medical issue, procedure, life situation, dr, treatment plan, etc is different for each individual person's experience (not to mention how medical technology & treatment options advance over time), BUT... there are some things that I wish we would've known/planned for, that remain the same regardless of individuality or time. They say hindsight is 20-20... I believe I can provide that for you & your daughter. Someday she'll be 32 as well, & hopefully with a little foresight into her next several years, you can both have more options & make better decisions to see her into a happy healthy adult life. I wish I had a time machine to take me (& my family) back to some crucial years... I wish I could re-do ages 15-28... I wouldn't do a total overhaul (I have very few regrets), but I'd certainly tweak some things so my life wouldn't have been such an ongoing struggle. I don't say that to scare u; all things considered, I'm doing, eh, "OK"... My life is 'decent'; I'm grateful for the positives, but so many of the negatives could've been avoided. Unfortunately we don't get do-overs; life doesn't work like that. All we can do is push forward & help others learn from our experience. I just think I can provide u (& your daughter) with some things to think about, so u won't have to utter the phrase used all too often by my mother, "Wish we'd've known" (or my standard, "Damn, why did/didn't I just ___!?!?") Hopefully you'll see me on this site again (if I can find it), but if not, please shoot me an email so we can talk further (& maybe u can teach me how to find this site again!)

Michelle Burch said...

Hey,
I played soccer for almost 19 years and I will be 22 yrs old in May. I tore my shoulder labrum my senior year in high school and got it repaired by scope, then retore it my sophomore of college and got it repaired (I still have massive problems with that shoulder). Well November 13,2013 I was playing in an indoor soccer game and completely shredded my ACL and later found out I tore my hip labrum completely. I had ACL surgery Jan 2nd and had to do a manipulation on it. On March 18th I had scope surgery on my hip and I started walking on it two days after surgery. I went to my surgeon and he beat me with papers because I wasn't on crutches, so now I wake up in the middle of the night screaming in pain because my hip feels like someone stabbed me. My surgeon believes I retore it!!! My husband is active duty military and we are supposed be moving next Friday for him to go to training for 5 months we'll now I have to go back home to get surgery again!!!! I am way to young to be having so much surgery and pain